Talent?

[luco]

I was having an argument with a few people today. They were telling me that anyone can learn to draw and that it doesn't really require talent, just alot of practice.

They said that true talent can be seen in writing...

The argument went on for sometime and finally I just let them ramble and hoped they'd go away...

But it does make you wonder....I feel they both require talent....and I thought everyone felt that way as well.

Seems I was wrong....

My bad.

Comments

[corvid.livejournal.com]

From what I've seen, I think you're a talented artist, at least?

Perhaps the people you were talking to didn't realize the ways that both art and writing need practice and talent to create something that is - powerful.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

Hey! You're new here! ^_____^

*pounces*

I don't think they wanted to admit that they couldn't write anything that had any emotion. Grammar-wise? Perfect! Entertainment value? None...

[corvid.livejournal.com]

Yup. I bumped into your journal via Aster. ^_^

Writing without emotions usually results in stories that read like three day old oatmeal. Ditto for art, really. And arguing that writing and art are completely separate is just ridiculous - but I did an English major, so I'm biased.

I knew someone who knew all the grammar rules, but had no idea how to go from an assignment to a piece of writing without something to work from. They could write about real people and events, but had no idea how to make said events any more interesting then "Day in the Life of John Doe." So - I think you could argue that's an example of talent / creativity being needed to step beyond a mere chronicle of events.

[ladyharken.livejournal.com]

It takes talent to draw. Really.

I have none, and even with practice, anything I would ever draw would suck. Muchly.

My sister, although she claims she doesn't have any talent, does have some. Because she can draw. Maybe not like the godmody artists, but at least she can draw. I can't.

So... yeah.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

Godmody artists are rare......even though many would like to claim that title ^^;;;;;

two cents from moi

[rhapsodisiac.livejournal.com]

Hmm.
I don't think either needs talent, but talent is a great help to both, and you really can't get as far without talent as you can with it. What's true for writing is true for art, because they're both really just different kinds of art, in my eyes. I've often applied principles of one when working with the other.
It sounds to me like you were arguing with writers, lol. True talent can be shown in writing, but not in art? Psh. I can't agree with that.

And don't worry about that picture. :) I'm very patient.

Re: two cents from moi

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

Patience is really good ^^;;; Everytime I try and concentrate on something else the Bunnies glare at me and well....they're deadly when they're pissed off...

Besides...as soon as Squall gets in the skirt he either doesn't want to pose or else is dragged off by another muse O___o

But yes....Talent does help both fields.

[the-sublime-cat.livejournal.com]

I think both take talent. I draw, but I always suck. I have no talent for it, or very little. You have great talent for it. My uncle is a talented artist. My sister is a talented writer. It just comes naturally to some people. To an extent, practice can help you with both. But I've always thought the basis of it was talent. *shrug*

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

I agree with you there.....

But these days Talent seems to be bought with money...I mean...look at "Modern art"

*shudders*

[maderr.livejournal.com]

They both count as art, inmho. And I would say both take a certain amount of talent and a lot of work. I'll never be able to draw/paint/etc, no matter how much I practice. To discredit artists like that makes me see red. You're mad talented, and I know you work hard at it. Sounds like they were writers on their high horses. They seem to have forgotten that a lot of books do, sadly, sell by their covers.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

Well they are supposedly recent College Grads come to give us a Speech (Seminar..whatever...) and I think they have something against artists or else just against someone who can make something of themselvs without a certificate...it just sucked that it was 5 to 1 with the rest of my class just looking on blankly.....

[vagrant-mouse.livejournal.com]

I agree with them in that anyone could learn to draw. But just being able to draw isn't enough, I geuss it takes some talent come up with something thats more then just a copy of what you see. Eh, I woulden't realy know talent, I don't understand the concept of it.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

Talent is......I really don't know actually...since I've been told I have talent, I don't have it, that I have no natural talent or that I have the talent of patience.....

Meh.....it is what you want it to be I guess ^^;;;

Oh! I need you're mailing address so i can send you a Christmas Card!

[vagrant-mouse.livejournal.com]

I'll e-mail it to you as soon as I can find a letter for me.
I still don't remember my address that well. ^^;;

[branchandroot]

Excuse me a moment, darling.

*hunts down people in question*

*thwacks them repeatedly over heads with a dead cod*

Right, then.

Anyone can learn to draw to a certain standard, just like anyone can learn to write to a certain standard. Barring disbilities that would interfere, of course. But that standard is... well... blah. I can draw blah--with a great deal of hair-tearing work I can produce something that is not actively painful to the eyes. More than that requires either talent or astounding dedication. Preferably both, but you can get pretty far on one or the other.

Writing is just the same. Anyone can, with some work, produce prose that is not actively painful to read, but a good story requires the same kind of gift and dedication that a good picture does.

You have the gift to draw. I have the gift to write. Let us rejoice in our talent and smack with dead cods anyone who refuses to acknowledge one or the other.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

*Rejoices*

Beating them upside of the head does sound so tempting especially since one of them will be the Student Teacher in my English Class...

*shudders*

I'll never be able to draw in peace while in class again...

*mutters and growls*

[tachyon-telos.livejournal.com]

Those people are stupid (hence the icon I'm using). I've had drawing classes for 8 years and the ONE thing I can draw that's decent is a rose. That's IT.

It's not just practice and I'm living proof of that. You need talent. And you have it.

[luco-millian.livejournal.com]

I like that icon...I need that daily at school ^______^

....8 years of drawing classes O___o

I haven't even had a month of classes.....wait...there was that week of sketching...I think....

[tachyon-telos.livejournal.com]

Yes. 8 years. I'm dead serious. I'm LIVING PROOF it does not take practice alone. >_<

Isn't Watari great? Here's a color of him! ~_^