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I really do not like this page ;___; I'm going to have to beg your forgivness for the quality of the art today. I guess the weather and stuff has really gotten me down.

Will probably re-do this page in the future if it bothers people, but for now I'll leave it so that I can advance the story....





Now to finish packing, and tommorrow I'll be back at school finally.

Date: 2007-01-05 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dried-frog-pill.livejournal.com
Eeeeeeeeee if this is what you consider to be less-than-stellar art, then I should introduce you to my doodles XD This is so good! Chopperfish's face in the first panel is so cute (and he's pouting! Eeee so cute ^^) I also really like the third panel, Sanji's pose is just so great. Chopper being squished is love too XD

And pffft, the second panel? I think I love Sanji best from that side profile where you can't see his eye. Dunno why, but even in the manga they're some of my favorite shots of Sanji. I love the slight-smirk/smile he's got on his face, it's so Sanji.

Good luck with the packing, and don't let the weather get you down! And pffft don't let us pressure you into churning this out every day if you don't want to. I mean, we all love it, but we don't want you to beat yourself up over it *glomps*

Date: 2007-01-05 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Really? It's okay? *imitates the first panel Chopper expression* Your' not just saying that?

...

Maybe I'll like it more tommorrow when I haven't been fighting with it for a whole day.

I think I love Sanji's profile shots as well simply because they tell you everything you need to know without revealing anything! And that probably made no sense whatsoever, so please ignore me >_>;

Also, starting tommorrow pages won't appear everyday ;___; ((and I'm sad because even though I don't have to, I really want to tell you guys this story)) they'll appear every few days when schoolwork allows it.

Will do my best to spoil you guys with other art though.

Date: 2007-01-05 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mailechan.livejournal.com
I have no idea why you are dissatisfied with this page. I LOVE Chopperfish's teary eyes--he's so CUTE! And that profile shot of Sanji is really, really reminiscent of Japanese manga styles, where you see the smile, but the eyes are hidden so that you can't tell if he's being evil or nice, or something in between.

You know, I like how Chopper's got hooves instead of hands. He just looks so darned adorable.

And don't believe him, Chopper! Mer-Sanji is SO going to get in trouble!

Date: 2007-01-05 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Chopperfish can't be anything but cute it seems....although we'll never tell him that >_> And you're right that he should be worried about Sanji, but Sanji knows just how to distract him....

Date: 2007-01-05 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mailechan.livejournal.com
So it seems. I love how casual Mer-Sanji is as he leans on Chopperfish's hat. And how Chopperfish is flailing around.

Date: 2007-01-05 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
That's the panel that gave me so many problems and I'm still not sure of......

Date: 2007-01-05 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mailechan.livejournal.com
*staaaaares at it* To be perfectly honest, it looks really good to me. Mer-Sanji is absolutely perfect. The way he's holding his leaf and slouching a little on Chopperfish is just like the real Sanji to me.

I think the only thing I would wonder at is Chopperfish's arms. The position they are in makes me think he's leaning forward, which sort of throws off the technical aspect of things. Maybe if they had little motion waves, like he was flailing instead, it would look more like he was just being squished down by Mer-Sanji?

Date: 2007-01-05 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
So maybe it is just my mood that is making me not like this page...

I do realize that Chopper's arms are too stiff though. Of course I only noticed after it was inked and mostly shaded ^^;

Date: 2007-01-05 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mailechan.livejournal.com
Actually, the stiffness makes it better. It's like he was caught by surprise and is trying to catch himself, while forgetting he's a fish now. I find it funnier this way.

Date: 2007-01-05 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
*snorts* Yeah, he probably would forget he's a fish once in a while. I mean, he is half reindeer and all >_>;

Date: 2007-01-05 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ripfangdragon.livejournal.com
squeeee how cute ^____^

Date: 2007-01-05 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
It's got Chopper being teased, so of course it has to be cute.....

Date: 2007-01-05 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ripfangdragon.livejournal.com
>.> It's Chopper. It's ALWAYS cute with a Chopper :D

Date: 2007-01-05 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
That is. When in doubt, just add Chopper ^__^
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Date: 2007-01-05 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Maybe it is my mood....

But that third panel is the one that nearly killed me >_< I had to redraw it 6 times before it looked even semi-decent and I'm still not happy with it ;___;

But I'll wait till tommorrow once I've moved and looked at it again before I decide if I want to do anything with it....

....

...their expressions are perfect? Really??
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Date: 2007-01-06 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Miss Amanda? I think that's the first time I've been called Miss....

It's...kinda nice ^____^

And I shall try to be happy. I have to draw sword sex right now, so that should keep me amused...
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Date: 2007-01-06 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
What? You don't want me to draw Sword-sex?

And I can imagine that! It makes me smile ^_____^
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Date: 2007-01-06 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
*purrrrrrs* Okay so I really like that and I don't know why >_>

And I understand what you're saying, but who says that i can actually pull off drawing the images that were created by that lovely piece of writing ;___; I have so many poses in my head that i don't know which one would best....

I so wish I had more free time.

Date: 2007-01-05 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regicidaldwarf.livejournal.com
Have I mentioned yet that I love the fins? I barely know the canon to OP (art style put me off), but this is still awesome. I love the expressiveness of the faces, and the FINS! I just...love the fins. xD

Date: 2007-01-05 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
.....

It seems everyone has a fin fetish...

...

This amuses me greatly ^____^

Date: 2007-01-05 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regicidaldwarf.livejournal.com
I seem to develop fetishes for things people do well. Even if I didn't have them before. ^__~
Did you get the comment before saying that I got your card and love it? Just wanted to check since you didn't respond.

Date: 2007-01-05 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
I did get the message, I'm just really bad at responding to everything. I always think I have, then find out I missed something ;____; I'm very glad the card arrived safe and sound and that you're happy with it.

Date: 2007-01-05 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kala-aira.livejournal.com
Surly you jest good lady, for there is nothing wrong with this page.

The first panel with the Chopper pout is absolute gold, and I for one never get tired of Sanji side profile shots.

Also Sanji just leaning on Chopper makes me smile in the "Awww look at how good of friends they are!" sort of way.

Your art is amazing as always. Don't be so hard on yourself. ^__^

Date: 2007-01-06 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
I've discovered it is incredibly difficult to draw someone pouting. Or at least for me it is....

...

And i'm still in shock that people like this page.

Date: 2007-01-06 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hii-chan.livejournal.com
Sorry, I just read LJ now, before I go to bed.

And THANK GOD I read it before I go!!! Now hopefully I'll have nice dreams about Mer-Sanji!!

Seriously, I do not see why you are not satisfied wiht the page...Sanji is incredibly hot and Chopperfish adorably cute (the way he pouts is shooo adorable). And do you have *any* clue just how jealous I am of Chopper in that 3rd panel? Just how much I'd give to be in his situation??
His grin in the 2nd panel is so 100% Sanji and it always amuses me that he holds the sea-weed like a real cigarette ^.^

So I really like this page!! Don't trouble yourself over it so much!

And hopefully you have finished packing by now, the rain has stopped and you feel a bit better now. because since you made us all happy with your drawings, it would be nice if you were happier now as well...
Have fun is school!!

Date: 2007-01-06 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
I'm sure I'll feel better about everything tommorrow. Or, at least I hope I will. But since so many people like this page, I won't re-do it and shall leave it as it is.

Hope your dreams are interesting ^_^

Date: 2007-01-06 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hii-chan.livejournal.com
Nope, no dreams unfortunately -_-

But now that the new and hopefully not rainy day has come, do you feel a bit better about that page?

Date: 2007-01-06 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
....I'm starting too.....just killing time right now till I head to school. There is no rain, but the sky is overcast...

Date: 2007-01-06 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hii-chan.livejournal.com
So? did you accept the page as it is or does it still bother you?

I stared at it for a looong time and looked for anything that would be not-perfect. In that 3rd panel, you seem to mind so much, I really can't find anything at all. I totally love it as it is.

The only tiny, tiny, tiny little thing I found is in the 4th panel. There, Chopper's cheeks look a bit too chubby and round and big, but that is really all I could find. And maybe that only is because of the angle is he drawn ^^'

I realize this probably doesn't help you very much, but I thought I'd mention it anyways ^^'
However, I really wouldn't redraw it if I were you because it looks good enough as it is. but if you really are unhappy everytime you look at it, then I guess it can't be helped, can it?
But maybe you actually started accepting it already ^.^

Oh,a nd I saw that you moved to school finally. Damn, that room sounds soo great!! You are totally spoiled there! is this only an art school or do they have by any chance other programs there as well and accept foreign students? ^.~
But you deserve finally being back to where you feel comfortable, so have fun there ^__^

Date: 2007-01-06 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maldoror-gw.livejournal.com
Well, I love it ^__^ Especially that third panel! Gah, awesome pose, so relaxed, so friendly, so Sanji...And aww, what an adorable thing to say to our Chopperfish. Even if I'm sure Sanji can probably stay safe on his own, I'm sure that's like giving Chopper a verbal hug :P Hmm, interesting that Chopper said 'hurt again'. Sounds like backstory...

It's weird, I sometimes have the feeling of something off with a fic/chapter I write (not often, thankfully), and for the love of me can't pin it down. Sometimes that feeling goes away, sometimes not. When I post it, nobody's been able to point out to me anything that can explain the feeling (so far), so I just hope it's only in my head ^_^ I hope it looks better to you tomorrow, once the weather/hormones/alignment of venus/alien brainwashing stops, because it's nice to be happy with your own work, but if it helps, everybody else here seems to love it ^_^

Date: 2007-01-06 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Everyone loves the one panel that drove me insaen and still does. It's so very odd, but it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who gets that weird discontent feeling with their own work.

I don't know what it is, but it still feels off...

((and there is quite a bit of backstory written. Don't think it can go in the main story, so I'm tempted to draw up a few mini stories as well once this is done...))

Date: 2007-01-06 01:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] white_aster
I agree with the others, that it looks fine. :) You did seem to do two fairly close up pics of Chopperfish's face, but the second close-up I think is adorable. ^__^

Date: 2007-01-06 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
That might be it to. Maybe the layout of the page is bugging me...

*goes to stare at it some more*

Date: 2007-01-06 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vampire-otaku.livejournal.com
Oh, don't beat yourself up, sweetheart. I think it turned out just fine. Especially that third panel that you seem to not like so much. Sanji looks incredibly relaxed and totally himself, while also showing a little affection for Chopper that is super-sweet. The pose is just perfect for him.

Egads, Chopper's expression in the first panel... ;_; I want to pick him up and cuddle him forever and ever until he feels better. Sooo cute!

Date: 2007-01-06 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
......so why am I the only one not happy with this page? It just makes no sense to me. It has to be the weather affecting me, because all of you can't be wrong....

Date: 2007-01-06 08:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sozuki17.livejournal.com
I see nothing wrong. ^________________^
Chopper's cute, Sanji's smexy, everything is right in the world. XD What would you change about it? Personally, I like it. And Sanji's smirk! X3 I love how those two are buddy-buddy-like. <3

Date: 2007-01-06 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
Well that's a simple way of looking at it ^______^ And i'm not sure what I would change, just something........

*is annoyed with herself*

Date: 2007-01-06 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fieryredqueen.livejournal.com
well, since you seem so unhappy with the page, i scrutinized it for Stuff What Bothers Me. at first glance i couldn't even find anything. second and third glance, and every subsequent glance, the only panel i could find anything in was the first one. nothing i can see in any of the other panels bothers me--in fact, the third panel, which you seemed worried about, is the best one by far. i don't have a problem with chopper's legs at all--it looks like a natural, tense reaction to someone suddenly leaning on your head hard enough to squish your hat. even underwater. sanji's pose is really great, very casual and natural--the way he holds his weed away from his mouth is particularly nice--and his expression is really great. his expression in the second panel is great too, and it's a nice profile shot. chopper's expressions in the first and last panel are as adorable and expressive as they should be. so i think you are being too hard on yourself about this page. it's really good, as all of the pages have been, and probably will be.

as for Stuff What Bothers Me in the first panel, it's not even anything major, though it might take me a bit of room to describe it. the main thing is chopper's body--i'm assuming that the right side of the panel is showing his torso leading up to the bend in his waist? it's kind of hard to tell--there isn't much contrast, and no differentiation between textures--fur and scales, presumably. i know the style you're working in is minimal when it comes to textural detail, but some more contrast at least might define the shape a little better. or redo the panel and frame it differently--it's kind of a weird angle. (i've never done manga and so i don't know how feasible it is to just redo one panel.) also, and this is pretty subjective, when i try to follow the line of chopper's torso from where i presume his collarbones would be all the way to the bend in his waist, his torso seems way too long. while, by contrast, his hat seems too short. but the main focus of the page is chopper's watery, pouty expression, and as far as i'm concerned, that's flawless.

Date: 2007-01-06 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fieryredqueen.livejournal.com
looking over everyone else's comments, i feel kind of guilty for not simply praising you with great praise, as you deserve to be. i definitely don't want to discourage you.

Date: 2007-01-06 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luco-millian.livejournal.com
You looked and tried to help me figure out what's bothering me and that means as much as all the praise does to me. It may just be that small thing with Chopper in the first panel. It could be that the shading is a little too sloppy or busy in some areas, or it could be that I spent too much time drawing the third panel.

I'm still not sure exactly what it is, but you've helped me find a direction to look in and I'm thankful for that ^___^

Date: 2007-01-06 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fieryredqueen.livejournal.com
i'm really glad if what i say is helpful to you in any way. that's what it's all about, after all. :)

Date: 2007-04-24 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salmon-pink.livejournal.com
How can you possibly think this page is anything less than wonderful? The playfulness between them, Chopper's heartbreaking cuteness, it's all made of awesome!

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